tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post3216322571629685906..comments2024-03-15T08:55:29.800-04:00Comments on The Musical Priest: Mounting IrritationAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01087811856300842855noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-77328119545667505462010-03-10T14:24:41.275-05:002010-03-10T14:24:41.275-05:00The 'mounting irritation' that you claim t...The 'mounting irritation' that you claim to feel is nothing compared to the same irritation that Catholics feel regarding the continuing reporting of abuse cases that, sadly, come in every morning with the regularity of terrorist activity in the Mideast.<br /><br />Item: Germany's heinous sexual abuse scandal, which has cast shadow over the country's Jesuit-run institutions, deepens with the likelihood of over 100 victims in one of the schools. <br /><br />Item: It is one of the darkest chapters of sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church. More than 110 children in Eskimo villages claim they were molested between 1959 and 1986, raped or assaulted by 12 Jesuit priests and three church volunteers. Families and victims believe that another 22 people were sexually abused by clergy members but have since killed themselves. The Jesuit Oregon Province, which includes Alaska, has agreed to pay $50 million in damages. It is believed to be the largest settlement ever against a religious order.<br /><br />Item: Jesuit priest who fathered two children in Alaska decades ago but contended earlier this year that he shouldn't have to pay back child support, in part because of his vow of poverty.<br /><br />Sadly, I could go in. Where will this end? What is needed is that your mounting irritation become righteous anger at those Jesuits and other clergy who have created the mess that the order now finds itself in. Perhaps these Jesuits suffer from the same 'insidious lack of charity that is motivated by wholly by an evil spirit of malice and deceit'.Ed Kowalskihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02311957666550501109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-889872206960940472009-05-18T09:13:00.000-04:002009-05-18T09:13:00.000-04:00I graduated from a Jesuit college in 1982. I am a...I graduated from a Jesuit college in 1982. I am a third generation graduate of said college and also an attendee of Mass at the downtown Jesuit parish. I celebrate the faith and heroic virtues of many Jesuits. But I also personally grieve for the pain some Jesuits have inflicted on many of us. I have been mocked in confession, in the classroom, and in conversation. <br /> <br />Most of us who are critical just want the Jesuits, a a whole, to be Catholic. We love them. My poster child is Fr. Reese. By all accounts Fr. Reese is a good priest and I don't know him. I do know what I read. His application of the political science paradigm to the church doesn't reinforce my faith. It reinforces the Social Gospel. This is not necessarilty a bad thing but in his battle with hierarchy and organiztional power to make his point, he actually undermines the Gospel and faith. He undermines the church - that I love. I don't love the hierarchy but I do love the church with all of its problems. The pain he causes is real - not intellectual.<br /><br />Of course, my experience every time I state something like this is an exposure to the lack of charity being talked about in this blog rather than anyone really hearing my pain. I continue to find the others, including other Jesuits who I respect don't really respect me as they defend their brother.<br /><br />Perhaps I "don't understand" as they tell me, but I don't think I'm being listened to either. I am not valued. The blog under discussion is a validation that I am not alone. The pain for all of us in this conversation will unfortunately continue. Perhaps, you will find the time to pray about it for maybe you my find the way to bridge the gap and help us who have this love/hate relationship with the Jesuits. Perhaps - it could be your mission?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-59348672643792511282009-05-09T17:19:00.000-04:002009-05-09T17:19:00.000-04:00Ryan, I think your comments on his blog reflect po...Ryan, I think your comments on his blog reflect poorly on you. You would be better off to just keep him in your daily prayers and not bring more attention to him.Markhttp://guateliving.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-53946240060216027922009-05-07T03:54:00.000-04:002009-05-07T03:54:00.000-04:00Does Joe Garcia ever post here that he doesn't mak...Does Joe Garcia ever post here that he doesn't make some reference to himself? Who gives a damn whether or not he's "working on" a post? Doesn't he have a job?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-68358713867670011042009-05-06T19:23:00.000-04:002009-05-06T19:23:00.000-04:00Joe,
Time to get a hobby.Joe,<br />Time to get a hobby.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-68370821893503313272009-05-05T23:39:00.000-04:002009-05-05T23:39:00.000-04:00This fellow is more than an imbecile; he's plainly...This fellow is more than an imbecile; he's plainly malicious. I avoid his blog and urge others to do the same.Tim Irishnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-5347133683295021972009-05-05T16:54:00.000-04:002009-05-05T16:54:00.000-04:00The Earth day one is the best--he actually has a p...The Earth day one is the best--he actually has a picture of Ira Einhorn up there next to a link to America magazine! Because, you know, Fr. Keane is a serial killer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-8831564977587533332009-05-05T16:52:00.000-04:002009-05-05T16:52:00.000-04:00I think this goes back to your earlier (first?) po...I think this goes back to your earlier (first?) post on the ND/POTUS thing.<br /><br />The lack of charity is (pervasively so) disheartening and, sadly, too indicative of our fallen nature.<br /><br />I'll be the first to admit that certain Jesuits' public comments test my family history of hypertension. That said, I try to explain my disagreements in charity. I may not succeed, but I try and I am open to being corrected, and I can provide several instances where I have retracted something because I didn't express myself charitably or I had misinterpreted something.<br /><br />To cite two concrete examples:<br /><br />1) There is a certain blog where there is a post up discussing the ND/Obama thing. The post itself is fairly innocuous, but the commentary is <I>scrofulous</I> with vitriol. Those whom the author takes to task are labeled "radical" or "extremist" or "ayatollahs" or "thugs." <br /><br />You get the idea.<br /><br />The first seed of this lack of charity is the expression of "us vs. them" in posts and comments. If I think someone is wrong, I don't want to label him; I want to convert him.<br /><br />2) There is a post on which I am working, dealing with Liberation Theology (at least in its most...uh...famous understanding) and the involvement of several Jesuits. It's held up because I am not comfortable with the way my writing fails to convey the appropriate charity.<br /><br />AMDG,<br /><br />-J.testsjmghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02809499971767143167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8160415.post-34414722164011045682009-05-05T15:15:00.000-04:002009-05-05T15:15:00.000-04:00Ryan,
I think one of the saddest hallmarks of a wh...Ryan,<br />I think one of the saddest hallmarks of a whole lot of the "Catholic" blogosphere is a lack of charity. I gave up reading many such blogs quite a while back. I see no point in letting them destroy my peace: they certainly don't add to my understanding or my faith.Kiwi Nomadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13351034705766073667noreply@blogger.com